[Nautik]

With the official BMW figures out on the next gen M3/4 does anyone else have questions regarding the what you get vs what you are paying for when you compare this to what the e92 M3 already offers?

Weight:
f80 - 3300
e92 - 3476

Horsepower:
f80 - 425
e92 - 414

Torque:
f80 - 406
e92 - 295

Transmission:
f80 - both DCT and manual offered
e92 - both DCT and manual offered

Brakes:
f80 - 4 piston / 2 piston compound brakes
f80 - 6 piston / 4 piston carbon ceramic (option)
e92 - single piston / single piston compound

Suspension:
Don't know much about it.


So sure, it's a little lighter. It has about the same horsepower. It has more torque which is great for daily driving but really HP is king, not torque. Otherwise the C63 AMG would beat the pants off the e92 M3. The transmission is more or less the same? Now the brakes certainly are a nice upgrade, especially the ceramic option. However, that can easily be swapped out on the e92.

Yes the 0-60 time looks a bit quicker but 0-60 really doesn't tell you much about how fast a powerful car is.

e92 - 4.4 sec (official BMW quote with DCT although C&D got a 3.9 out of it)
f80 - 3.9 (official BMW quote with DCT, probably several tenths faster in reality)

The e92 M3 was a pretty big bump over the e46 M3 (had both for a while). Not convinced that the f80 has much over the e92 in terms of performance especially if you put a few dollars into the e92 (bigger wheels/tires, few bolt-ons).

I guess we will just have to wait and see how fast the f80 is on a track, could be a complete monster like the Stingray turned out to be. On paper though, not seeing a big difference here. Not like the e46 vs the e92 anyway...

We won't even discuss the sound...