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      12-17-2008, 03:14 AM   #102
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Originally Posted by footie View Post
Let's discuss some other GTR ring times. Horst on a wet track posted 7:50, DR on an equally wet track got 7:56, even using Horst's own estimates that puts the GTR at 7:40
Foot, foot, where will the lies end? What is the problem? The only choices are reading comprehension or dishonesty.

The SA lap by Horst was clearly/obviously/explicitly not a "wet track". There were some wet areas. Similarly with the DR test their first few warm up laps were in the wet and led to the comments about the wet handling. Then, if you can read (and see by watching the videos) the weather turned the track mostly dried and Chris was able to push the cars pretty darn hard. You call this a "wet" track?

Next on Horst words on the car. In the Sportauto test he said that for the car a 7:5X shows the true potential of the car and 7:4X is "very optimistic". The direct implication is that he believes that 7:4X is OPTIMISTIC FOR THE CAR, i.e. meaning given great conditions, a great driver and a great lap. Following this train of thought if any time in the 7:40s is optimistic then 7:49 is optimistic as well (again great conditions and a great driver on a great lap). Subtract 5 seconds for the better tire option and you are squarely in the mid 7:40s. You are not in the 7:20s not in the 7:30s and not a few seconds from 7:29. You take absolutely the best numbers from everything and like the previous poster pointed out add them all up like off a shopping list. It doesn't work that way and the numbers you use are not supported by those whom you claim provide your numbers.

Talk about blind bias toward your foregone conclusion...

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Originally Posted by footie View Post
Once again I call Porsche PR stunt as total BS.
So you think they had what or what combination of contributing issues to their poor time. Please really think about this and answer. I am really curious.

1. An unskilled/hack driver.
2. A driver who does not know the Ring.
3. Terrible conditions, totally unsuited for getting a good solid run.
4. Little to no experience pushing the GT-R (that they bought) really hard
5. The driver, despite being accomplished, pussy footed around, mostly shifting 1000 rpm below redline.
6. None of the above, they got a fantastic time in the 7:2X or 7:3X range and just lied because they knew they had been beat so badly.
7. Other (fill in your own)

Last edited by swamp2; 12-17-2008 at 03:29 AM..
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