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Originally Posted by kotik

Many factors, like others mentioned... light weight of m's, SC'ed with supporting mods (meth, catless), auto tranny. Like somene mentioned before, in classic configuration of 6spd manual, the result may differ quite a bit (no matter how fast you think you can shift, and there is no flat shifting with SC)... I don't run meth, i'm a 6spd, and with smaller SC kit, results don't look the same... although i'm pretty sure I can give slightly modded GTR run for it's money in straight line. When I was at Spa, there was a stock 2011 gtr, and from low speed turns, he had a lot more torque down low and was able to catch up to me in those sections... but once again, i'm manual and can't do 2nd to 1st shifts at low speeds, plus traction would be an issue.

here is a vid from that... he was quite a bit behind me, but towards the end my brakes started to heat up, so I let him lead for a lap (I let him pass around 18:30).

very cool

it's obviously that 4 wheel drive will clearly benefit on the track, and the torque down low will definitely help out of corners. regardless, for the type of car i would personally want to drive on the street, it has been very hard to get out of the ///m. i hopped in a 2007 911 Turbo and while it was fast, it wasn't THAT fast, the tranny was a slushbox (no pdk until '09), and the interior was already starting to wear after only 14k. there's just something about these cars that emotionally grabs you and it's hard to break free.