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      10-02-2011, 04:13 AM   #43
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Drives: 2010 E92 M3 DCT
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Originally Posted by devo View Post
Like Cabinetman posted above, the 997 turbo (.1 only, .2 2010's have the 9A1) has the same GT1, Mezger engine as the 996 turbos. Actually, the 997 version is even better.

As far as posing goes, that's non-sense. As much as I love the Mezger (have a .2 GT3) the 9A1 is also a marvel. Less weight ~13 lbs, iircc, less parasitic power loss due to less moving parts, while still retaining an integrated dry sump. Some people get all goofy when someone mentions "integrated". A dry sump is a dry sump, no matter where the sump is located. . As good as the Mezger is, it is an old, heavy design. It may go down as a desirable engine as years pass, but that doesn't mean that the newer tech isn't better. So far the 9A1 has proven very strong. We'll see once Porsche starts racing it. The 991 GT3/RSs will their engines based on the 9A1.
I would like to share my experience as well if I may...
Having owned for about 7 years all kind of M powered cars and then changing for the next 5 years to Porsche 996tt and 997tt and only a couple of days ago jumping back to the seat of a 2010 E92 M3 I think I can shed some light here...
Although this is a BMW forum and despite the fact that was a hardcore M fan (having used my cars in all kind of motorsport fun from drag and steetracing to time attacks and multiple drift contests) I must admit that "there is no substitute for Porsche"...
Ofcourse having said that I do realize that esp 996tt and 997tt are not a direct comparison with M3's as they are supercars...
Quality and luxury is extraordinary and power and handling just can not be even comprehended... esp when tuned... NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING else less than a more tuned 99tt could even come close and I ended up racing streetbikes in order to have some fun...
The experience you get from dirving such a car is priceless and can not be described accurately enough I am afraid...
On the downside I did not use these cars as DD (although I do see how one can do it as they are fairly economical cars for what they offer and ultra strong and reliable) and I did miss RWD an awful lot these past 5 years. Now add here that the car was starting to lose it's value extremely fast in our problematic economy over here and it was becoming a very very expensive weekend toy (all things considered) and I replaced it with a less show-off, more usable, but still clean and reliable do-it-all all time favourite car, the M3, which I assure you (having owned every single M car in the past), is by the far the best of all....
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Now 2008 997tt tip APR 630HP + 2010 N54 135i manual flashed-CPE DP / Past: 2010 Euro E92 M3 DCT - M3 E92 all time 60-130MPH RECORD HOLDER @ 6.16sec (100-200km/h @ 5.2sec) + NA 60-130MPH RECORD HOLDER @ 9.7sec (100-200km/h @ 8.25sec) 2009 997tt APR 630HP (6.67s-5.5s), 2007 997tt Protomotive 600HP (7.18s-6.2s), 2003 996tt Protomotive 700HP (6.48s-5.5s), 2004 E46 M3, 2002 E46 M3, 1999 Z3M Roadster 3.2l(321HP), 1997 E36 M3 3.2l (321HP)
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