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Originally Posted by hotrod182
Okay..if that is true, then how come at Famosa/Bakersfield, which is about 600Ft above sea level...78F day...the non-supercharged GTOs that were there were only running mid 13's, about the same as my stock 06 M3? And my stock 335i runs just a fast at sea level, and faster than my M3 at higher elevations. A procede 335i almost ran a 13 Flat, and would run away from any of the non-supercharged GTOs there that day. And yes, you can say, well you can mod you GTO to do that with very little $$, but can you really mod it, with $1300, not make it any louder, total sleeper, and still get 29-30mpg on the highway? It might be hard because it just doesn't have the high tech direct injection, piezo injectors, dual variable camshaft timing, 6 spd steptronic trans that can shift faster than 90% of the GTOs out there( I have the acceleration graphs)..etc...etc.
Bottom line, is there is a lot more technology in the 335i engine that the GTO engines simply can't match. That is why the 335i engine just won International Engine Of The Year. Not because it is just some huge displacement high horsepower engine...but because of the technology, and the way it goes about making its horsepower efficiently. You see, this is the kind of thing that you pay for when you purchase a new BMW.
I don't know how often you go to the track, but here are the results from my visit to Bakersfield. As you can see the NA GTOs are running around mid 13's. Close to what my M3 is running. Sure, I have run 107mph in my M3 before, but this is comparing these cars at the same track, same day. I can assure you, none of the GTOs would touch 109mph. And the Procede 335i sedan would have walked away from any of those GTOs. My stock M3 is highlighted, as are the GTOs, and the Procede 335i. And those GTO owners that think they walk away from M3s all the time, may be running against M3s like the ones that are (A second slower) achieving 14.5's at the track. The M3s are just as challenging to drive down the 1/4 mile with their low torque, peaky powerbands. If anyone else takes their 335i BMWs to the track, see how the GTOs are performing compared to your cars and let us know.
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Well you were there, and if that's what the GTOs were running then that's what they were running...end of story. I will say, those trap speeds are REALLY low for a 6spd 05+ GTO, are you sure they weren't automatic cars?
Also, you don't need to preach about the technology of the motor in your car and how it's so much more sophisticated than the american pushrod V8. Was anyone debating which motor was better engineered?
I'll let the cat out of the bag right now. After tonight I will have difinitive results of what a properly driven 6 speed 06+ GTO will do against a PROcede 335i. Matt (Sniz) and I are meeting up tonight for some runs, and they will be on video to document. We'll start a new thread with the results and video footage.