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      03-23-2012, 04:15 PM   #92
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I cant speak for Texas but in Florida as a concealed weapon holder I have to avoid escalating a conflict, I can't place myself into a fight where I need to pull a gun in self defense, i have to avoid conflict and basically back down and be a pussy. He was in the wrong for escalating and then pulling a weapon.

You could have raped his dog and called him what you wanted, and he still can't pull a gun to get the upper hand in an argument unless he has an immediate fear of losing his life. If he placed himself in danger he can't pull the gun.

Even if he really was in fear and pulled the gun but didn't use it, then he wasn't really in fear of his life and was just brandishing and would still go to jail.

In some states once the immediate threat to life ends, you can't shoot someone. Like if someone raped your wife while holding a shotgun to your head, and they later threw the gun on the ground and were in the process of leaving... then you shoot them as they are walking out the door, you are the one in shit because the immediate threat to life ended when he put the gun down and started walking out.

In short... If you pull a gun you had better not have started it or had a part of the escalation, you better be in real fear of your life, and better make sure you shoot to kill and not wave it around to gain leverage. He fucked up by not meeting any of these conditions.

He should be in jail and gives legal CCW carriers a bad name.
So how does that law allow that Zimmerman guy to walk free after killing that kid in Sanford? He was told to stay in his vehicle and not escalate the situation, yet he did. Even if the kid then assaulted him, he didn't do what you said above and avoid the conflict. Exactly the opposite.
This is an ever changing story and, eventually, more details will come out and justice will be demanded (already being demanded).

The reports I have read though indicate the law (recently changed about 5 years ago) allows for shooting in self defense and pretty much lets the shooter off the hook. Within the week I predict this a$$wipe will be charged with a crime, I personally think he was a nut job just waiting for any "self" reasoned excuse to use deadly force.

Sheriff has already withdrawn from the proceedings, Feds have taken over, protest rallies calling for justice, only a matter of time....
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