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      11-03-2005, 11:37 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by lux.sh
I explained the similar theory in my other post. I also said similar things that you said in other honda forum I go to, and I got flamed badly.

So help me understand here.
Ok, I'll try to explain my point better. You were probably flamed by clueless posters so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Originally Posted by lux.sh
My thoughts------------------
I wouldn't say "useless as it gets". Then how can you really measure manufacturer's production car performance if real life racing experiences/records doesn't prove anything? Not to mention prices of these TSXs and Mazda 6s aren't even close to the prices of BMWs.
That's not how WC works. What is the cost of the TSX and Mazda 6 vs the BMWs after prepped for competition? WC cars go through extensive modification and all of them are much more than you'd pay for a loaded 330i at your local BMW dealer. WC cars aren't anything like a production car and therefore useless to use as benchmarks.

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Originally Posted by lux.sh
Level field, ok. http://www.world-challenge.com/carfacts.html
so they have regulations. Given equal mods and tuning, its up to the drivers and vehicle's potential/performance. I guess we can either say; A. Brand A drivers can't drive. B. When both tuned, car A usually is capable of out-handling/performing car B.
Equal mods and equal tuning? Definitely not, have a look at the specs of the cars:
http://www.world-challenge.com/competitors/vts.html
Do you really think the cars are all equal and it only comes down to driver A's skill vs driver B's? There is no such thing when you compare across different makes/models which is the basic flaw in WC.

Look what happened when the CTS-V hit GT last year. They were making ridiculous adjustments to the Audi's and CTS-Vs in an attempt to make everything fair for all drivers. It was a complete joke. Check out this link:
http://www.world-challenge.com/compe...bulletins.html
and pull down the first 4 pdfs in the SPEED GT. Track what happens to the Audi RS6 and CTS-V as the season progresses. Gee, the CTS-Vs stomped the field and coasted through most of the first couple of races. That's not fair, so how do we fix it? Let's throw on a 20% more restrictive restrictor plate, lower their rev limit by 900 RPM, and throw on an 200 pounds. Oh no, now the RS6s need to be "adjusted" to make things fair. Let's throw on another 100 pounds. Oops, that wasn't enough, so let's throw on yet another 50 pounds, drop the redline by 200 RPM and drop boost from .7 bar to .55 bar. The cars are fair and equal? I think not. Good example of bragging rights for the production versions? Not really.
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