View Single Post
      05-21-2007, 11:18 PM   #16

Drives: piss yellow droptop
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cleveland, Ohio

iTrader: (0)

Originally Posted by jworms View Post
i highly doubt audi would produce a car that could take sales away from the R8. with those numbers who would buy an R8?

btw, as a side note, i think the M3 and R8 might not be too far away in terms of performance:

e92 M3:
415 horsepower
295 ft lbs torque
1/4 mile: low-mid 12s @ 112-113mph (if we go by what the current M5 runs, using the e46M3 vs e39M5 timeslips as a model. i subtracted a couple mph because the M5s tend to always trap higher than their M3 counter-parts)

Audi R8:
317 ft lbs torque
1/4 mile: mid 12s @ 111-112mph (based on a couple websites that have reported 1/4 mile times for the R8)

the R8 has AWD which will probably cause the car to not produce as much power to the wheels (more drivetrain loss). i'd even go so far as to say that the M3 will probably produce higher dyno numbers than the R8.

also the R8 is going to be double the base price of the M3 so in that sense they are definitely not in the same class...the M3 is going to be a much less expensive option for what seems to be similar performance.

of course we'll have to see what kind of actual performance numbers/laptimes come out when the cars get closer to being released, but from what i can tell they are definitely close.

man, talk about magazine racing to the fullest.

It seems as though Audi isn't as worried about the performance of the R8 as much as the exclusivity. The R10 might not even be a huge performer. Either way, Audi is focusing on the car being extremely exclusive. Read this article from Car and Driver:

"Only 300 of the $110,000 coupes—which share underpinnings with the Lamborghini Gallardo—will arrive in the U.S. this year. Even though dealerships believe they could sell more, Audi is limiting supply to ensure the car’s exclusivity."

"Audi wants dealers to make R8 buyers sign an affidavit before purchase that requires new owners to give an Audi dealership first dibs on buying back the used R8 when they’re done."

"Only 109 of Audi’s 267 American dealers will stock the R8. To be eligible, each dealership had to be able to set aside 400 square feet to set up the proper shrine, and be prepared to invest $40,000 on marketing (more than a third of the cost of a single R8)."

Sounds a bit over the top if you ask me.