Lol this thread has gone on long enough. I second that.
I will also offer the same as Jlevi:
"Do not believe the misinformation being presented to you here. I challenge any of you to come to our shop and look at the Vorsteiner products on display - feel them with your own 2 hands"
We are in So Cal and would be happy to let you guys check out the Vorsteiner products we have in stock. There is no defective product anywhere.
I guess this is the internet....u get the good info, you get the bad info and you get the useless info