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      04-22-2007, 11:53 AM   #24
GregW / Oregon

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Originally Posted by lucid View Post
To those people who think they can get 60-80 hp without FI and without sacrificing reliability: what are you smoking/dreaming? This will be a $60k+ car, which has a brand image to protect and plenty of other high performance cars to compete against and all. What makes you think BMW will release it with that kind of untapped potential? If they could have designed the headers to provide the additional 30 hp, they would have. This is not some Honda Civic you bolt parts onto (with the exception of FI) and see a drastic difference. Somebody even mentioned software. Give me a break. So, you're telling me someone else can write better software for this car then the highly trained engineers who designed the car in the first place and know the engine parameters inside out? Again, that kind of tweak works with lower end cars that are tuned down due to fuel economy, emissions, and noise concerns. Except for the emissions criteria, I doubt that BMW is too concerned with the rest in the M3. And if you want to go screw with you emissions, that's another story (then you can even remove the converter or something stupid like that).
While I agree with your basic point, the issue you need to remember is that mass-market (relatively) cars like the M3 are compromises. They must meet a wide range of consumers' needs and dare not stray too far from refinement. If a person wants to tune the car for more specifically for performance, giving up other things, increases will be possible. Software would primarily be to take advantage of things like CAIs, race cats and exhaust. Such increases are obviously very limited and it is much easier to extract more power from a turbo engine.

Greg Lake Oswego, Oregon, USA
2015 M4 Coupe - Silverstone/Sakhir/CF
2012 ML350

Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 04-22-2007 at 12:46 PM.