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      03-02-2010, 03:11 PM   #30
hayjoelb
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i wouldn't do both dbol and winstrol at the same time. usually dbol's to bulk and winstrol to lean out. if it's your first cycle, keep it simple also, you're suppose to run each with test like enanthate. keep in mind going this route isn't a substitute for working out. you'll still have to diet and bust your ass in the gym, otherwise you won't get any results.

people talk about side effects but assuming you take mild to moderate doses, run the proper duration along with pct, and you'll be fine...there's no evidence to support it's dangerous. people put tons of random supplements into their bodies and none of that shit is tested or controlled. everything i get comes directly from pharmacy with lot numbers.

and hcg IS used for pct. you can use it instead of clomid if you want. however, it's expensive as hell for a 14 day supply so i just stick with clomid.
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