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Originally Posted by Booster4075
I have voiced my concern over this in the past on the idrive retrofit forum. I have been concerned that doing a 2nd-gen retrofit without the car "authorized" for those part numbers will be a major stumbling block. I had similar issues when I got a incorrect region (ECE) CCC on my US car... SSS/Progman refused to program my car since the part numbers were incorrect for my application.
Unless BMW releases an official "retrofit" or changes their software to allow this mis-matched controller part number to work, their software will not program around this. Changing the VO doesn't help since the VO doesn't change based on the difference of controllers...609 is the only option, and thats just for nav in general, both 1st gen and the LCI 2nd gen. From what I understand (but haven't used it myself) is that Autologic can see past this p/n issue and will force programming on all other modules. (problem is that CON is programmable and takes updates too.)
Best bet for those who are putting this controller in is to keep your old controller and trim so that the car can be programmed, just in case. The good news is that is takes like 90 seconds (and requires no tools) to make a trim/controller swap.
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Originally Posted by Technic
I don't know if we will be able to sell the old iDrive parts after this retrofit - and that is if this retrofit works the way I want it to work.
It could be very possible that we will need to keep the old iDrive parts just in case the installation of the new iDrive parts does not allow any software update in the car. The way the BMW software update works is by checking all the P/N of the Vehicle Order and making sure that all the modules are compatible with the updates to be received. If a module is found with a different P/N from the expected list/database the update will not be done.
I don't want to change my Vehicle Order to include a '09 part in a '08 M3, that could screw something else up because the opposite is also true: adding a part that was not part of any '08 Vehicle Order could also make any software update to not load or load with incongruencies. What I want is to be able to switch back and forth iDrives depending if a sofware update needs to be performed by the dealer without changing the VO.
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The only dealer that really helped in my iDrive retrofit first tried to code the CIC installed in my car, just to see if somehow that was possible. The result was a list of P/N mismatches,
all iDrive-related, that needed to be resolved before any and all proper modules coding could progress further.
All the new iDrive parts had to be swapped -CIC, HD Screen and Controller in about 30 minutes- with the old iDrive parts before any coding could be performed.
I have stated this issue several times in several threads as a warning to
any -not only this new iDrive- retrofit that it is not OEM approved/supported: the days of the E46-PnP OEM retrofits ended with the E46.
Don't be confused with retrofits that seem to work PnP, that's completely different from an
OEM software integration. Any E9x retrofit requires to go thru an OEM software integration process or a software update cannot performed. That OEM software integration allows the update/change of the respective modules P/N of the Vehicle Order file but only if this new module P/N is already part of the OEM list of
superceded parts database. In other words, if the update process does not include those added/changed/superceded P/N's in their database (be in the retrofit path or just regular part upgrades database) then they cannot be added/changed by any other OEM means, much less by a dealer and much less by a customer.
There are non-OEM methods to override the OEM software integration but these are very dangerous methods that can mess up you car in a matter of minutes if done wrong, and even void the
whole electrical warranty in the car as software mismatches will be created when different module P/N require specific software versions that were not expected to be installed in the same vehicle. You need to be extremely knowledgeable to even go this route, and especially willing to sacrifice your warranty if the worst happens.
Again, that's the reason I do not want any change of VO and just do a "stand-alone" retrofit that it is easily swapped with the original parts.