I have serious doubts that all of those figures are all stock, if you include stock also = OEM tires I am virtually positive. Getting 11.8@119 from a 4100 lb car with 469 hp is not likely. However, if the cars are under rated, putting out more like 500 hp at the crank as MikeG suggests I would buy those numbers. MikeG: What do you say about the time and trap got by MotorTrend? Do you think that car had close to 500 crank hp? I don't.