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      07-30-2008, 05:05 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by ganeil View Post
We provided them aid to buy food. We extended them credit to buy American grain and other food stuffs. Saddam had a WMD capability without any American support. He used WMD before the US had any relations with him. We provided him no weapons as the article you linked to shows. There were some proposals to trade for Soviet weapons we needed examples of but they were never followed through on.

Are you aware that anthrax and botulism are naturally occurring pathogens? The CDC provided the Iraqis samples of research quality anthrax, not weaponized anthrax.

The Iraqi army was equipped with Soviet equipment and advised by Soviets. Its air force flew Soviet and French aircraft. It had virtually no US made weapons and those that it did have it got through third parties.

It was a Soviet client state.
You're in a dream land. Because most of Iraq's military weaponry was of French and Soviet origin does not mean we weren't in bed with Saddam. We did whatever necessary to ensure a victory over Iran in the Iran-Iraq War.

"What follows is an accurate chronology of United States involvement in the arming of Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war 1980-88. It is a powerful indictment of the president Bush administration attempt to sell war as a component of his war on terrorism. It reveals US ambitions in Iraq to be just another chapter in the attempt to regain a foothold in the Mideast following the fall of the Shah of Iran."

With regards to anthrax, naturally occurring anthrax is acquired from contact with anthrax-infected animals or animal products. Humans are infected if they come in contact with these animals in some way - inhalation, cutaneous, and gastrointesinal. These cases are very rare. I don't recall Saddam using anthrax infected animals to kill Iranians or his own people.

Materials we exported from the US to Iraq were used by Saddam to further enhance his chemical warfare program. In fact, anthrax became a major component in the Iraqi biological warfare program. "On 25 May 1994, The U.S. Senate Banking Committee released a report in which it was stated that "pathogenic (meaning 'disease producing'), toxigenic (meaning 'poisonous'), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."

The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Bacillus anthracis) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

U.S. Senate Banking Committee Report (mentioned above)

You can also check out Bear Spares Program and the Teicher Affidavit.

"CIA Director Casey personally spearheaded the effort to ensure
that Iraq had sufficient military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to
avoid losing the Iran-Iraq war. Pursuant to the secred NSDD, the United
States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis
with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military
intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third
country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military
weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic operational
advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat."

I'm done. Shouldn't have come back to this sub forum.