Originally Posted by ChitownM3
Oh, and by the way, you keep talking about power to the ground, and then refering to horsepower. Horsepower does not equate power to the ground, it is an easy calculation that allows simple minds to understand torque at higher rpms. You can figure out real power to the ground by looking at the torque numbers and gear ratio, something I don't feel like doing right now.
Thank you for pointing that out. You got cars out there that makes tons of horsepower but cannot put it on the ground. BMW is one of the best out there in terms of putting it on the ground. The big advantage that Lexus has is it's torque figure. But to be honest, i think BMW's higher and faster rpm should equalized that, and that's probably why the numbers are so close between the IS-F and M3 when Car and Driver tested them.