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      09-17-2013, 09:51 PM   #186
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Originally Posted by pt View Post
I'm not trying to make you like Hillary or anything, that's your prerogative either way. The point here is that folks in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Do feel free to post an example of a politician that rose to prominence and never lied - I'll be thrilled to look into them. It's always a good thing to see an example of someone else's ideal.
We have all watched her for over 20 years now. So we know what we'll get if she is elected in 2016. That's a lot more than we knew when we blindly elected BO in 2008. Even today and after 5 years we are still not sure what we have and what is coming next.

Now back to Topic which is now moot with the current world events