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      03-13-2013, 11:55 AM   #60

Drives: 2005 ///M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Maryland

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Originally Posted by M3NSCH View Post
The AMGs are beasts... but let's be honest, the M's should at LEAST compete with them class vs class. Same goes for the RS Audi's.

Without a supercharger (and really, it's gotta be Stage 2+... the Stage 1 SCs don't cut it, thus so many for sale) the M3s frankly don't compete.

I'll also go so far to say that the reason for the turbos on the next gen is for power, with the added marketing line item of fuel efficiency. Remember the Toyota Supra (and others) were making massive power with an Inline 6/TwinTurbo setup 20 years ago! It's really about time BMW caught up and shows the world how to really do it right (look at the M5/M6).

And remember, at one time the other FI (Fuel Injection) was "cheating" to the carburated guys... Tomorrow electric motors (KERS anyone?) will be "cheating" to the turbo guys... Absolutely nothing wrong with using technology to win.
I agree the power numbers should be similar, but even with additional power the C63 isn't going around the 'Ring any faster than the M3 (heck, it only beat the E46 CSL by 3sec). There's more to "fast" than horsepower and torque numbers. Having said that, I know people here know that but the buying public does want numbers. So BMW does need to be competitive.

There's no question that BMW is going FI to make more power, but I think it's largely to make more power in a less expensive way. They could get an NA engine up to competitive levels, but the costs would be too high.

FI is the way things are going and really I'm cool with that because I like fuel efficiency, but I will always love the great NA ///M engines.