Originally Posted by canadian stig
Sorry to tell you this but JV lucked into his championship and JPM never accomplished squat in F1. Those 2 guys are barely even average at best. Hardly the cream of the F1 crop. If it was a Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso, or Hamilton, or even Raikkonen, they would have done much better.
JV may not be a legend along the lines of Senna, Prost and MS but he is a F1 WDC for crying out loud. Anyone with even a single F1 win is a good driver and all F1 WDCs are great drivers and ARE the cream of the F1 crop. Dismissing a F1 WDC as having lucked into his title is just disrespectful of the whole championship.
JPM is multiple race winner and was a contender for the 2003 WDC and had he not had that run-in with Rubens at Indy '03, could well have been the one vying with MS for the '03 title instead of Kimi. JPM WAS the Hamilton of that period...fast, a bit erratic and prone to mind fades, but always very fast and a contender in any car.
Oh...one minor detail...JV and JPM also happen to be one of the very, very few drivers to have won both the Indy 500 AND the CART championships, in addition to their multiple F1 victories.
Yet you seem to think Hamilton is a great driver, but JPM and JV are not.
Presume you've been watching F1 for only the last few years, know nothing about it's history, and really don't have a clue what you're talking about.