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      01-11-2013, 11:48 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by mdoughty View Post
There is an old thread on here somewhere from a guy in Europe who at one time had the 60-130 record (10.4 if I remember correctly). I'd love to get some more feed back from the guy. I'll shoot sal a message when I send my original file for the 240e update.
Yeah, there was a forum member here. I have tried PMing him a long time ago to see how his build was, but never heard back from him.

Definitely keep us posted on what Sal@Evolve says. I'd be curious to hear his response.

Originally Posted by Raucky2000 View Post
There are some UK guys that already have maps for cams....starts with an E and I talked to them this week. Got to make you work for it some
Haha...curious who you are referring to.

All I know is that Evolve Automotive from the UK will be tuning my Schrick 288/280 Cam'd S54B32, hopefully by Spring time!

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo View Post
Any competent tuner should be able to tune the car for different camshafts on the dyno.

Pretty easy - only 4 vanos maps. Inlet cam warm and cold, and exhaust cam warm and cold. You can change the scaling on the axis if you need more definition in certain areas. The camshaft maps are in targeted degrees, so you can designate where you want the cam to move based on RPM and load.

Tuned an RDSport stroker a couple months ago and the owner couldn't believe the difference after driving the car.

I think this whole tuner war idea is stupid personally. As I've said a million times before, chasing numbers is a waste of time. Comparing dynos is a waste of time. Looking at DELTAS on the SAME car is the only measure of value.

You might have a car make 400whp on one dyno and 350whp on another. There are simply too many variables at play. Dyno operators can also skew results in their favor, which is why I ALWAYS use a third party to run the dyno, and have no involvement myself.

You can make a dyno queen that will make more power by desensitizing knock sensors and a few other tricks. Will the power stay there? No.

So who wins the war? The car that puts down 400whp on the dyno and a week later makes less than stock? Or the car that does 385whp consistently and reliably over long periods of time? Too much focus on pure numbers instead of delta gains. Too much focus on numbers instead of smoothness and drivability. Too much focus on WOT when you spend 90% of the time driving in part throttle. Tuning this DME is not rocket science, it's a matter of having the factory information and knowing what to do with it. I bet most tuners don't have some of the factory information that I do.

All I care is that all of my customers are happy, and I can say without a doubt that I haven't had a single complaint. I've retuned cars with various other software time and time again with nothing but positive results.

I still need to post in that 400whp thread when I have time to address a few comments in there. But for now I'm going to enjoy my last night in Las Vegas and get to that when I return to LA.

Stop wasting your time chasing numbers. It makes zero sense. Enjoy your car and your mods instead, whichever tuner you decide to go with.
I could not agree anymore! Well said Mike.

I totally forgot that you tuned a RD Sport Stroker Motor! Please share details either through PM or another thread! This message forum needs more information on monster NA builds instead of the boosted stuff, haha.

Please install cams on your beautiful E90 M3! It would be nice to see a change of pace around here.

Enjoy your last night in Vegas and stay safe!
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