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      12-14-2012, 09:40 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by GewoW View Post
im very sorry but if someone has never tracked before and is just starting and makes the stock pads are simply NOT learning properly

the only reason to upgrade pads early is to waste your money. when and only when you start noticing fade because you are fast enough (while remaining safe) to ellicit it, all means...upgrade
I agree that the best learning platform is a stock car with good street tires...except for the pads. I remember my first weekend in my 330...cooked a brand new set of HP Ceramics down to a 1/8" in 6 session. Was I an idiot then? Yes but different people will do different stupid things so I'm not sure what anyone fading their brakes is not learning properly means. I am still an idiot? Probably. But I paid for 8 sessions, had to go home after 6 sessions. I see the lesson to be learned here is braking smoothness and management. But at the same time how much will you learn when you go into corner wondering if your brakes will work when you step on the pedal?

I see better high temperature pads as a safety/reliability upgrade. I wouldn't think a novice needs a seat and harness but that's something that I would recommend a novice look into. Unlike supercharging their engine or jumping right into R-comps.
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