I think the traction control/DSC work brilliantly in our cars IMO. They let you go right up to the brink with some fun without creating a very expensive headache for yourself. I've yet to drive with it totally defeated. I will eventually but I'm ok with it intervening for now.
"what I'm driving here...is an ending." Jeremy Clarkson
2014 Whiteout Toyota GT-86 6mt(Presently enjoying WAY more than anticipated)
2011 Alpine White BMW M3 6mt ZCP Coupe(forced retirement 06/06/14)
2008 Alpine White BMW 328i 6mt Coupe(retired 06/21/11)