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      11-23-2012, 11:59 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl View Post
Actually, if you listen carefully to Jindal's comments, he doesnt spend as much time disagreeing with the principles embodied by Romney's comments as he does condemning the fact they were uttered out loud. Basically, what I got from it was more like 7 minutes of "you can't say that stuff and expect to get elected by the folks you just insulted", and 15 seconds of "they are not choosing to be unemployed, they are unemployed because the economy sucks".

Even that 1 brief admission does not actually refute the correlation that Romney was drawing. The fact remains that someone who wants to expand or maintain the social safety net, rather than contract it, offers a more appealing choice to those who are struggling financially. That is true even if you are honestly spending every waking moment doing everything you can to try and find a job, and of course it's true for those who spend their time waving their free Obamaphone in the air on the streetcorner to demonstrate for the news cameras why America is so great.

He never says "Republicans should promise the same sort of safety nets to get elected in 2016", he says "Republicans should stop publicly disparaging those who consume that huge safety net". Not the same thing, which is great, because it means he gets it, so if he ends up on the ticket in 2016, he'll appeal to the ever growing demographic who obviously would rather vote for someone who looks more like them, thus increasing the chance of returning fiscal conservatism to the White House.
Sorry but you missed the point completely if you believe as Mitt Romney does that the only problem with his comments is that he said them out loud. That thinking is just an extension of the same insult you just claimed to understand is wrong. That is EXACTLY the problem Republicans have right now with a changing electorate and that is THE reason Mitt Romney lost the election. All the coded xenophobic language intended to appeal to mostly southern white voters alienated many non-white voters including Asians who gave over 70% of their vote to Obama. If you look at the electoral map you'll clearly see Romney won most of the southern states and lost everywhere else. That's not a coincidence. Ironically southern states are generally less affluent than the rest of the country and they consume a disproportionate amount of government services than other states.

By the way the vast majority of those who "consume the social safety net" happen to be white, not black or hispanic as is implied by the comments above.

What Jindal clearly understands that you and Mitt Romney don't is that all people are basically the same. Everyone wants the same things in life. Dividing people into makers and takers is the true definition of divisive class warfare. Allowing yourself to believe that entire groups of people are only interested in receiving gifts from the government with no aspirations beyond that is proof that you don't get it. If you want voters to accept Republican ideas and principles you have to connect with them and get them to like you so they are willing to hear your message. As Jindal says the way to get voters is to like you is like them first and treat them with respect, not insult them. Telling people what you think they want to hear to get their vote, then disparaging them behind closed doors is the way to lose elections.

And speaking of "stuff" what about all the "stuff" Mitt Romney and the Repubs promised all those billionaire donors who contributed so generously to his Republican super packs? They didn't cough up all that dough just cause they liked ol' Mitt. There were all kinds of strings attached to those dollars and if Romney won the election you can damn well bet they would all be calling in their chits. The Republican party is just as generous to big business and millionaires as you claim the left to be to poor minorities.
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