Originally Posted by incantana
I wasn't speaking about conception. I was talking about a 6, 7, 8 month old that can live and breath on its own. How can you justify aborting that? if you removed the child from the mother at that point in time it will live. Its not someithing "in progress". Its already a living human.
If you want to make a law mandating that all abortions at that late of a term are c-sections, and the child becomes a ward of the state, then have at it.
If you want the state to require the kid, then lets have the state raise the kid.
If you want to make it your business, then step up.
It's easy to demand someone else to do something when you'll never have to get your own hands dirty.
Apart from that, it's still not any more intelligent than a lot of creatures we don't give a damn about.
Originally Posted by MP0WER
At 18 days [when the mother is only four days late for her first menstrual period], is when the fetus' heart starts beating and by 21 days it is pumping, through a closed circulatory system, blood whose type is different from that of the mother. J.M. Tanner, G. R. Taylor, and the Editors of Time-Life Books, Growth, New York: Life Science Library, 1965, p.
Tell these intelligent people that there are contraceptives available to them should they not wish to procreate.
Same goes for a rat.
Not many tears shed over them.