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      09-10-2012, 08:25 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post
and who exactly said('destroy') anything remotely close to that statement?
Well, the wording was 'destruction' not 'destroy'. What are you gonna argue that the words don't have the EXACT same meaning now?

Earlier in this thread:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
....the 1M is equal with the M3 up to until I shift in 3rd gear(around 75-80mph) and then it's a complete destruction, not even a close race so I can only imagine how a DCT M3 would annihilate a 1M specially in the 0-100mph. .....
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post the end of the 4th gear I had like 10-15 car lenghts(enough that I wondered if my friend was still WOT but he assured me he was) and we repeated that race 7 other times with the same result and a year later, same race against a diffenrent 1M and still the same result, maybe it's not scientific but at least it's not 0-60 numbers in a magazine!!

So in my opinion, in most part of real life situations the M3 is a lot more performing,.....

No offence but magazines numbers don't tell the owl story!
"maybe it's not scientific"? Yeah, your assessment is TOTALLY unscientific. Who gives a hoot about your street racing stories.

Originally Posted by gthal View Post
....I also find it funny when people start arguing drag times... the my e-peen is bigger than your e-peen bench racing is entertaining. Funny that neither car was really built to be a dragster and are both much, much more than that but people still measure their worth on stop light races. If that is your measure, get something other than an M car.
Well I'm not sure what you were expecting in a thread that the OP wanted some input about the 1M vs. M3. The magazine test results are not meaningless and are a good point of reference for discussion. I was pointing out how similar the test results are with the two cars. Yes, the M3 has a 1/10 second advantage to 60 and 1/4mile, but as I pointed out the braking and skidpad is the same as well. So some will say well the "track" tells the whole story. I won't use my GoPro or anyone else's anecdotal evidence. The times below show very close, some in the 1M's favor and some in the M3's, but very close at any rate. No destruction or destroying going on. So to the OP, my advice, drive both cars(if you can), buy the one that you prefer. If you can't get behind the wheel of a 1M then visit the 1M section to try and balance the discussion.


Hockenheim Short, Germany
BMW M3 1:14.00
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:14.10

Contidrom, Germany
BMW M3 1:35.11
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:35.76

Autozeitung test track, Germany
BMW M3 1:38.70
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:39.40

Sachsenring, Germany (3671 m)
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:40.18
BMW M3 1:40.60

Bedford Autodrome West Circuit (post 06/2008), Great Britain
BMW M3 1:25.10
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:25.90

Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club, France
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:26.50
BMW M3 1:26.51

Nordschleife, Germany
BMW M3 8:05.00
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 8:15.00

Top Gear Track, Great Britain
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:25.00 damp
BMW M3 1:26.50 damp

Mireval, France(No M3 tested)
Audi RS5 1:37.27
Audi R8 V10 Spyder 1:37.60
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:37.90

Laguna Seca, USA (Randy Pobst)
BMW M3 1:42.96
Porsche Cayman S 1:43.00
Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:43.00
Aston Martin V12 Vantage 1:43.04
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:43.31

Killarney, South Africa (M3 was DCT and we all know frozen paint is faster)
BMW M3 Frozen edition 1:23.76
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:24.81

Fuji Speedway (post 2005), Japan
BMW M3 2:02.90
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 2:03.70

Megara, Greece
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:09.81
BMW M3 1:10.35

Cadwell Park (Full Circuit), Great Britain -No M3(Tiff Needell)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:41.40
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:41.90
Lotus Exige S 1:42.60

Folembray, France
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:00.32
BMW M3 1:00.45

BMW 1 Series M Coupe 2:01.17
BMW M3 2:02.20

Virginia International Raceway, USA
BMW M3 3:05.40
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 3:06.60

Serres Racing Circuit
BMW M3 1:33.05
BMW 1 Series M Coupe 1:35.29 damp