a year ago I distinctly remember there is one point in the turn - usually the deepest point that I'd load both front/rear evening. since then I've stretched that "point" in to a "line" and the longer I can load both at the limit the faster I became - using trail braking techniques and gradually feeding power on the other side of the turn. Now I'm making both fronts and rears "sing" way early nearly immediately after the slightest turn-in all the way until full track out. Tires are either "singing" or I'm going WOT or I'm threshold braking. There I told you my secrets lol. Frankly I cannot shift (dct or manual) at all with the car without inducing yaw requiring correction. That my friend is the "limit"