Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Look around the interwebs if you do not believe me. I have shot plenty of them, they are generally more difficult to rack, and have other issues. As far as carry, a full 1911 is big and difficult to conceal. A very nice looking Kimber carry like the one recently posted is much better, but you will still tend to have more issues than with something else.
The people who carry for work/job clean their guns very often, and most likely have an armorer that will fix stuff for them. I shot a Kimber 1911 that was used in special operations over in the desert. Shot amazing, but was still finicky IMO compared to my Glock. It was difficult to rack (had to rack the slide more than 1 time to chamber) and had 1 FTE while I was shooting - which is more than I have ever had with my G19.
That being said - my next is going to be a 1911 style so take from it what you will. They are definitely not as reliable as a Glock or XD though. From the 3 gun related boards I frequent that seems like a generally accepted statement.
I suppose we'll have to disagree. Your experiences seem to be polar opposite of my experiences.
For instance, just recently i took my parents to the range for the first time. Mother is 73 and father is 68. Mother could not load their G22 mags father barely could. Both could load my 1911 mags with ease. Neither could rack the G22 slide, both could easily operate the 1911 slide. Neither could operate the side release on the G22, both could manipulate the 1911 slide release. Mother could not eject the G22 mags and father had a difficult time with it. Both eject and reload the 1911 without difficulty. And when it came to shooting both of the weapons they both were struggling with hitting the target with the G22 and we're talking about a 24" x 36" target at 7 yds. After each of them shot 2 mags with the G22 and my father hitting the target 8 times and my mother hitting the target 11 times i gave them the 1911. First and all subsequent mags with the 1911 hit the target in 5" groups for each of them.
Also, the 1911 they were shooting was pretty tight and had not been broken in. My other 1911 has an even smoother and easier slide to operate and hasn't had a single malfunction. Most certainly takes longer to clean as you said. My sig 1911 had an issue of not catching the slide open with an empty mag. Made a 15 minute phone call and sent the pistol out in the mail the next day. Sig turned it around with a new slide catch, 2 new mags and a polished feed ramp within a week, at no expense to me. Didn't need a gunsmith cause it was produced by a reputable manufacturer.
I'm not poo-pooing glocks either; i bought my G23 back in 1995 and still have it with me just about everywhere i go. But i assure you that i can conceal my govt model 1911 just as easily as my compact G23. The lack of thickness to the frame of the 1911 makes for less of a presence despite the longer grip and barrel.
You're experiences are different i guess and while i like shooting my 1911s better i won't say 1911s are more or less reliable than a glock. My glock hasn't had a malfunction either so i'll never tell someone that a glock is a poor choice. But i can't say that 1911s are a poor choice either. There do seem to be some variants of 1911 pistols that are less than desirable but i don't know any of them from experience.