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      08-07-2012, 03:05 PM   #336
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Originally Posted by .b0link View Post
There are sooo many more factors than you are wanting to awknowledge.

First off...there is no safe legal way to scrub off all of your tire on a public street. If you are carrying those lean angles...either you are carrying WAAAY too much lean angle for the speed you are going, or you are going WAAAY too fast for a public street. Period.

If you are just in a parking lot riding in circles to get rid of them, then that comes right back around to being a poser who thinks that it will make everyone think they are awesome riders.

So. Ignoring the fact that you shouldnt be going that fast on public streets, lets use the "canyon carver" bullshit justification.

Not everyone lives near canyons. Hell. Some people live in inner city or the pancake flats of Florida where there arent turns for 30 miles at a time.

There was an argument just a few pages back, maybe the last page where people were saying that you can own something without having to take it balls to the wall every time you get on it. Such as owning a lamborgini. Most people who drive one aren't using it to the full potential, and a greater majority probably shouldnt even be behind the wheel of one. Oh well. That is life.

I fully agree that EVERYONE that owns one of these machines should get to the track, and advance their skills. But just because someone has "chicken strips" is not reason to redicule them. Im WAY more impressed with the guy that gets a BMW S1kRR and has the will power and common sense to ride within his limits, than I am of the asshats on every other liter bike or 600 that go out to Mulholland Drive and wreck on the same damn corner every weekend just trying to drag a knee so they can have bragging scrapes on their pucks.

A true rider knows its not about how "low" you can get, but how upright you can keep the bike while hauling ass around a turn. It may not have the same street cred, but they can tell me that as I pass their ass on the outside carrying half the lean angle they are.
who the hell drags knees on the street? that would make for some nasty scabs!

so where to begin.... here's the inherint flaw to your argument. why buy a 172hp literbike if you're just cruising around town??? true self conrtol is knowing you're not doing any riding that needs a sportbike and buying a cruiser or a standard.

i grew up in LA, and can say i'm one of those knuckleheads who flew up muhulland every weekend. shit happens when you're young and dumb, but i've learned. i'll continue to use my wife as an example. she wants a sportbike, always has even before she could ride. i told her, she can take the MSF and then we can see what bike we were going to buy her after. well after that, we bought her a kawi 250r. she chased me around for three months, but honestly didnt get much better even with some coaching tips i could provide. very cautious rider, well aware of her limits even on a 250. well i signed her up for an advanced riders course at the track. after two days, i noticed a HUGE improvement in her riding her 250. I put her on my bike, and seriously she ripped. does my wife ride around town like dani pedrosa? no, but she definitely knows her limits and goes for it when she thinks it's okay. so again, you're appaulding self confidence for not riding a s1000rr out of their limits, but i say why buy a bike you're obviously not in the same league as.

as for the lambo argument. the lambo wasnt built for the track. same reason they dont race their cars in any series. it's made for stupid speed. i can say with certain confidence that every lambo owner has broken several speed laws or made that pedal meet the ground. so in fact, it's met it's purpose of stupid speed.