Originally Posted by thorny
Bottomline: laptime is the only standard I believe someone should judge how good they are. If you can lap button CW13 under 2 minutes in an M3 you're a great driver, no matter whether your DSC is on or off.
Senna is spinning in his grave...and not because he forgot to turn traction control on.
The truth is you'll never earn a race license from a reputable sanctioning body if you don't learn how to drive without traction control. And the only folks who may consider you a great driver are other drivers who always drive with traction control on.
Car control has always been a big part of being a great driver and most would say the very biggest, and it'll be a very sad day if that ever changes.