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      02-17-2012, 05:39 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by cssnms View Post
I disagree with your assesment behind the cause. In fact just about everything that you cited is a bi-product of their socialistic government. While true the government is to big, which is often the case with a socialistic government, Greece's debt crises has little to do with the fact their government employs to many people, as I said it's just a bi-product. The problems lie in an ideaology that a government's roll is to provide for the people. Greece continues to sponsor entitlement programs which it cannot afford, going into debt doing so, not much unlike what is happening in the UK and very much the direction this country is taking. That is why there is rioting, people do not want the government to take away the hand-outs. Laying off government employees is a short-term fix to a problem that runs much deeper. The fact they have "no real economy" is further evidence that a socialistic government does nothing to create jobs or bolster an economy, that's just smoke and mirrors.

cssnms, picking up what im putting down.

If you haven't deduced it from what ive said let me be more specific. Obama in HIS IDEOLOGY would prefer a system as flawed as the one in Greece, the parallels are uncanny. Trust me, im very well read in terms of philosophy and specifically the philosophies that go into coming to political and cultural affiliations. I wasnt trying to bash socialism, i was specific in saying that "type of socialism" because i wanted to highlight the fact that it was an ideology and not necessarily an economic system that is whats getting Greece into trouble.

The ideas that you yourself pointed out about the irresponsibility of the Greek system pervading the minds of its constituency is what im speaking of directly. No idea in economic philosophy or political philosophy is outright bad, its what is done under each. The reason i am economically conservative bordering on libertarian is because it leaves the least room for self destruction. The more pervasive the idea the larger chance of self destruction (not literally, ideologically), when that pervasive thinking is given authority it often times over extends itself into rubble, think Greece.