Originally Posted by RambleJ
If the OP wants to stay away from creatine, i'm sure he will go no where near a test booster.
OP, why do you not want to add creatine?
I second that...Whats with creatine dislike? If more info needed on the subject, please look here
I was just showing an example what a morning intake could look like. Its been pretty successful to me and i do not take any creatine (stand alone intake anyway) at the moment.