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      12-30-2011, 10:19 AM   #81
runnerguy1979
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Drives: 2012 M3 E92 6MT ZCP Space Grey
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Originally Posted by aajami View Post
Nice. It's always a pleasure to meet another former S2000 owner on these boards -- there are more than you would expect. At any rate, here are some quick thoughts on the two cars:
  • The engine dynamics are remarkably similar. Both the F20C and the S65 need to be revved high to utilize their torque. As with the S2000, there's plenty of juice in the lower RPM range, but the real fun begins once you get past 4-5K.
  • Beyond the similarity in their high-revving engines, it becomes very difficult to compare the two cars. The M3 is a LOT heavier, and this weight is the first thing that you'll notice. I miss the nimble nature of the S2000, and how the steering wheel, gas pedal, brake pedal, clutch pedal, shifter, and seat communicated all kinds of road data back to the driver. The M3 does so more than any other car in its class, but it's no S2000 in this regard.
  • Last note is on the shifter. The S2000's gearbox was a world class work of art. The only other car that came close to having that precise, rifle-bolt feel was the 370Z -- the 350Z's was pretty good too. Otherwise, you have to get into Porsche GT3 territory to start replicating the S2000's shifter's feel, and even that car's box is incredibly notchy and uncooperative (especially cold), with longer throws. So when I test drove a 6MT M3, I was really put off by the vagueness of the entire transmission. Clutch pedal was sloppy, throws were massive, gear engagement was vague -- the whole thing felt like I was making mashed potatoes. Now, plenty of people have a 6MT and love it, so it's a matter of different strokes for different folks. But coming from an S2000, I knew just about any car was going to be a downgrade in the shifter department.

Hope that answers your questions. Good luck with your delivery -- the M3 is a fantastic machine, and you will love it. Comparing it to an S2K is an apples to oranges proposition, but you will love it all the same.

By the way, I don't recall a Space Gray for the S2000. Do you mean Moonrock or Silverstone?


Thanks for taking the time to respond thoroughly.

You're right, it was the Silverstone colour not SG. Just couldn't remember the name but I know it looked almost identical to the SG.

I'm glad to hear your take on the migration from S2K to M3. I'm expecting an entirely different vehicle because of the weight differences, engine size, manufacturer, etc. I felt a lot more refinement when I drove the M3....like it was an S2K "grown up" if that makes any difference. Not to mention all the tech packages that come with these cars now ().

I've read on the threads about mods to help with the shifter feel. I guess I'll wait to drive it and see if I feel these are necessary. I test drove the 6MT and it was a bit spongy w/ a rough 1st-2nd engagement but I still found it satisfying.....mind you, I was so memorized by the power I might not have noticed the shifter ;-)

Anyway, thanks again for your feedback, mate.
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