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      10-02-2011, 12:52 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Questforpower View Post
Hate to tell you but BMW isn't the hottest on that list either and a brand they own is at the very bottom of the list.
Never said BMW is reliable. To have something even less reliable than a BMW is a joke..

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Just to be clear, I am not talking about something as trivial as a soft touch dash chrome on a radio knob. I am talking real engineering. Things like the quality of the steel used for the outer body panels. How is everything is bonded together? What are the inner structures made from and how are they designed?

Most people don't give a thought to this, but that is true engineering and thats how I look at a car to determine if I feel it is " well engineered ".

I feel safer in any German car over a Korean mess anyday.
Do you think we are still in the 80s?

All cars that are imported into the US has to meet federal safety standards and regulations. Ironically, Hyundai and Kia safety rating is basically all 5 out of 5.

http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/0...afety_ratings/

http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/0...afety_ratings/

Kia and Hyundai also has better body and interior dependability, feature and accessory dependability, and also power train dependability where Hyundai averaged 4 out of 5, Kia 3 out of 5, and VW 2 out of 5..

German engineering?

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Body and Interior Dependability: Taken from the Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS), which looks at owner-reported problems in the first 3 years of new-vehicle ownership, this score is based on problems in the vehicle exteriors, seats and vehicle interiors categories, such as seat belt issues, wind noise, water leaks, poor interior fit/finish, paint imperfection and squeaks/rattles.
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Feature and Accessory Dependability: Taken from the Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS), which looks at owner-reported problems in the first 3 years of new-vehicle ownership, this score is based on problems in the features, controls and displays; audio, entertainment and navigation; and HVAC (heating, ventilation and air conditioning) categories, such as issues with windshield wipers, navigation systems, rear-seat entertainment systems, heaters, air conditioners, stereo systems, sunroof controls and trip computers.
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Powertrain Dependability: Taken from the Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS), which looks at owner-reported problems in the first 3 years of new-vehicle ownership, this score is based on problems with the engine or transmission as well as problems that affect the driving experience (i.e., vehicle/brakes pull, abnormal noises or vibrations) only.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...ings-by-brand/